REPLY TO FOY
>Like their greatest song list puts Dylan at #1. Never cared for Dylan, can appreciate it though. But it really is a case of you have to KNOW the history to really understand why he is #1.
Whaat? Dylan is GREAT
He is an excellent songwriter, even if you don't like his voice. I do, but sometimes I prefer covers of his songs by other bands like
the Byrds' Mr. Tambourine Man (the change from 2/4 to 4/4 really makes a world of difference)
the Byrds' You Ain't Goin' Nowhere
the 13th Floor Elevators' It's All Over Now Baby Blue (GOAT cover, psychedelicized)
Idk about him winning the Nobel Prize though. Besides the ones awarded to contributions to the natural sciences or mathematics, I think they have as much credibility as the Academy Awards or Rolling Stone Mag's lists tbh
>Same can be said of Sgt Pepper or Pet Sounds. Not just good albums, but they changed the business forever. Everything builds on what came before so without Pet Sounds there is no Sgt Pepper and without Sgt Pepper etc etc
Yeah but a lot was because they were as big as they were and marketed well (less so with Pet Sounds but still, the BB were huge then still). There are so many fantastic records from the 60s way ahead of their time that were much more innovative but they were unheard of by most. Even the Velvet Underground and Nico suffered this fate, though there are much more obscure than that. It happens with films too, see Carpenter's "The Thing" remake from the 80s
>Revolver might be better IMO. I will say that both of them have perhaps the best 1+2 song combos of all time. Tax Man + Eleanor Rigby or Sgt Peppers + Little Help. Doesn't get much better than that.
Revolver is much more psychedelic and experimental, definitely acid-tinged, but there's something about the vibe of Rubber Soul that does it for me. I think I may like that one more still overall. It's definitely more of a "cannabis" album, the cover, the production, the songs. Plus it's the record that's more important for the Beatles' own history/discography as it's the first one where they really diverge and start making their own, creative songs as artists rather than as a Brit Invasion boy band.
>Could spend hours talking about how The Beatles and Beach Boys changed everything. Eleanor Rigby, God Only Knows, Good Vibrations, A day in the life. Four songs that broke the mold
Good songs, I would add Strawberry Fields Forever. One single where I think the Beatles really fucked up was not including Rain on Rubber Soul or Revolver (or any LP for that matter). It's very kino, ahead of its time too
With the BB, Good Vibrations was a landmark recording, not just for the band but pop music as a whole. The cut-up style, Brian recording it in sections at different studios across LA just to get the vibe/sound of that studio, the weird mix of instruments. It's the inevitable conclusion to where he was going with Pet Sounds' recording style and a precursor to SMiLE. The one after Good Vibrations, the follow up single, taking that "modular" style of recording further, was supposed to be "Heroes and Villains" for SMiLE, but it was a failure and SMiLE never came out. A version was released on Smiley Smile but it is a poor product compared to the intended original single. It was never completed as intended but a decent version was released for the Smile Sessions in 2011
Personally, my favorite stuff the Beach Boys actually released was in the aftermath of Smile from 1967-1973. I also like the later 70s stuff from '76-'79 but their absolute BEST material recorded from that period was never released. If you listen to the bootlegs Adult/Child, California Feelin', and even the CHRISTMAS album from 77-78 that became MIU (criminally underrated album itself), it's full of gems still unreleased to this day